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Fully Updated and Revised

Traveller is a science fiction roleplaying game of bold explorers and brave adventurers. The Traveller Core Rulebook Update 2022 contains everything you need to create one of these adventures and begin exploring the galaxy.

Spaceports, ancient civilisations, air/rafts, cold steel blades, laser carbines, far distant worlds, and exotic alien beasts – this is the futuristic universe of Traveller, the original and classic science fiction roleplaying game.

Come visit the far future.

The Traveller Core Rulebook Update 2022 has been fully revised for this edition and contains many tweaks and rules updates, as well as a brand new, highest quality interior format with lashings of top tier art to immerse you in the far future.

 
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Patrick S November 15, 2021 7:51 am UTC
As a complete Traveller noob who wanted to get into the game now, i'm really baffled by how expensive the Mongoose PDFs are. In general i think Mongoose has the most expensive PDFs i have ever seen. They seem to be completely tone-deaf regarding comments talking about that.
I guess they have a solid buyer base and are not interested in new potential customers?! Well maybe i have to take a look at Cepheus Deluxe instead.
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Rory H November 18, 2021 1:31 am UTC
$30 for a core rulebook: the only book you’ll ever need to run science fiction stories in literally thousands of worlds, and all the support you could ever wish for with one of the most celebrated and seminal RPGs of all time.

Yep, count me in as a solid buyer.
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True B November 26, 2021 5:42 pm UTC
Check out Cepheus, it is a much better system.
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Rory H November 26, 2021 5:43 pm UTC
It's not. It’s just a retroclone based on an old OGL.
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True B November 13, 2021 5:16 am UTC
I have bought two editions of MGT. The second is markedly worse than the first, save for glossy pages and mediocre art. Why should I buy this when I could buy Stars Without Number?
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Rory H November 14, 2021 6:23 am UTC
It is a 50/50 call as to whether anybody should respond to this and people will, no doubt accuse me of responding to everything on this subforum (whenever it pops up on my email account).

However, honestly, as a passionate Traveller fan - I find Stars Without Numbers to be an inelegant mash-up of ‘Old School’ D&D ideas (eg D20 based combat and Saving throws) latched on to a Traveller-esque skill system (2D6 based) and other Traveller-esque concepts (eg randomized tables for world design, etc) that were only original and innovative, decades ago.

I cannot account for taste about art or whatever criteria you have for saying that one edition is markedly worse than another, but this isn’t a new edition in any case. It is an update - layout, art, rules clarifications, editing choices - but the game itself is the same.

Traveller has a lot of support, both in terms of its playing fanbase and also a prolific range of published supplements. It has a proven legacy and iconic...See more
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Samuel B November 24, 2021 6:41 am UTC
This version is presumably intended to be distributed alongside 2300AD which requires and does not include the core rulebook. I suspect there is no need to get this version unless you just want it. SWN has a free version, just use that. The paid version adds a couple chapters, but they aren't essential.
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True B November 26, 2021 5:43 pm UTC
I came here looking to see what's new in the product. You seem to be projecting bad intent on me when there is none.
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Scott N November 10, 2021 6:57 pm UTC
So why don't they just sell a new book with a new cover & all, I would prefer a hardcopy.
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Rory H November 11, 2021 4:10 am UTC
That is what this is.

You can buy/preorder the hardcopy at the Mongoose site (with the PDF included). It gets released in January. For me, I am looking forward to the limited edition Collectors’ Edition:

https://www.mongoosepublishing.com/traveller-core-rulebook-update-2022-collectors-edition.html

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Ashok D November 12, 2021 9:39 pm UTC
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I picked up the update because I wanted to get into Traveller but did not have 2E. I did not know that if I had gone to the Mongoose website (and not Drivethrurpg) I could have gotten the print/pdf bundle :-(

Will there be a discounted print-on-demand version for people who bought the PDF version early?
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Rory H November 13, 2021 8:43 am UTC
The person you need to contact for those type of requests is Matt Sprange of Mongoose Publishing, at that website. Generally, it isn’t a usual case to get a POD option when the book is currently being sold in a traditional print run.
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Ian D November 09, 2021 1:55 pm UTC
For a update £22 is a bit steep, think I will save my money
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November 04, 2021 3:39 am UTC
I think it is pretty crappy (sh****) that you would have to repurchase the Core Rulebook if you want the errata and cleaned up editing! This is not a new version so support what you already have out there! Any other company would at least offer an upgrade path or a discount! Mongoose, you make it really hard to support you when you pull stuff like this!
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Rory H November 04, 2021 3:50 am UTC
It isn’t a release just to clean up errata. It is essentially an alternative core rule book. They have made adjustments based on customer feedback over the last five years. The previous book had already had several printings just to clean up errata - and the purchasers of that PDF would have had that for free as updates.

You can still use the old core book without being ‘out of date’, but this allows fans who want to see something a bit new in appearance (or those who want to buy a limited edition like myself) an opportunity to do so.

I can site games like Pendragon, Doctor Who or Call of Cthulhu as games that have all done similar things with alternative rulebooks in recent times. All those involved making new purchases of updated rulebooks which were purely for cosmetic reasons.
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Robert R November 03, 2021 9:37 pm UTC
So basically it's Mongoose Traveller 2, with some cleaned up editing & errata, the spaceship creation rules back in (as opposed to only being in High Guard in this edition), and more art.
Other than that, it's the same as before, no more game at all, just visuals.

Sure, I'd like to have it, but as I already have 1 & 2, and a lot of classic books, it's not even close to being worth $30 for me.
I remember when publishers used to claim that 90% of the cost of those books was printing. I also remembered them being very ecstatic over digital books as they cut out the printing costs, and the distribution costs were so low as to mostly ignored in their calculations. Funny how now so many of those same companies are pricing the digital books anywhere from 50% to 100% the price of the physical books of the same thing.
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IF Mongoose really wanted to increase sales, they'd give previous owners a decent discount to entice them to shell out for the additional art, and maybe put...See more
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Rory H November 04, 2021 4:02 am UTC
My understanding is that main cost in producing these books, for Mongoose at least, isn’t due to printing but in paying the Mongoose creative staff an actual wage for their work.

But, anyway, there is absolutely no reason to buy this book if you own the 2016 Core Rules and are happy with it. If you want a graphical uplift, and a few alterations based on customer feedback, then this is what this release is for. I am, myself, looking forward to receiving a special edition physical book with leatherette cover - in a similar way that Call of Cthulhu fans might be looking forward to getting their 40th Anniversary book with a new cover and a few extras inside (but essentially still being identical to the standard core book). It isn’t essential, but some fans appreciate the opportunity to have things like this.
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Nathan M November 03, 2021 2:29 am UTC
Book looks great, clean layout and improved art. Glad to see the ship design rules are back in the core rules and they have listened to their customers and gotten rid of the isometric deckplans and gone back to the simpler 2d plans.

I got five good years and hours upon hours of play out of the last Core rules. Happy to pay for something fresh!
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Andrew K October 31, 2021 4:32 am UTC
So $30 for errata and new art then? Hmmmm...nope.
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James G October 30, 2021 5:44 pm UTC
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I agree the artwork is better than the previous version but it's still pretty amateurish... I don't understand why mongoose doesn't hire some good professional freelance artists for this. The artwork in the new book still doesn't come close to the quality found in products by other RPG companies. I'd rather there be no art at all in the book than have poorly done images added in to ugly the whole thing up... This is the main reason I bought the new version because the original art was absolutely awful.
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Py R October 28, 2021 1:39 am UTC
I have to ask, is the description for this product accurate? Specifically the terms "fully revised" and "many tweaks and rules updates?" These are expressions that would ordinarily have me consider a purchase just so that I can stay up to date.
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Rory H October 28, 2021 2:31 am UTC
There are updates, but they are more minor corrections or the like. If you have the 2016 rulebook, you will not need to update for anything significant - it is not invalidated.

The main reason you’d want to buy this is for the layout and art, and then maybe then the provision of basic ship building rules and an index.
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Christopher J October 27, 2021 12:09 pm UTC
If all the Imperium-specific stuff was removed, then likely this new revised core book was coming no matter what as Mongoose dropped the IP. So why not take the opportunity to tweak the rules and spiff up the layout/art.
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Rory H October 28, 2021 6:28 pm UTC
Briefly, the Imperium specific stuff was not removed and Mongoose hasn’t dropped the IP.
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Charles N October 27, 2021 11:06 am UTC
Pass for me.
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Dan S October 25, 2021 7:39 pm UTC
This is *not* a rules update. This is an artwork and layout re-work. The ONLY rule change i've found relates to Target Lock in Space Combat no longer granting a Boon, but now only grants +2 DM. All rules are the 2016 rules with that one exception. They've added the basic rules for Starship creation from High Guard but they arent new rules. There is also so far one glaring mistake: Page 100, the stats for Battle Dress and Hostile Environment Suit is NOT shown, although in later pages they are discussed. So unless you actually have the 2016 2e Core Book or the Central Supply Catalog book, you'll have to simply guess what those stats might be. To make room for the added starship creation rules, the Sindal Sub-sector has been removed. On the bright side, the new artwork is mostly good and could be considered an upgrade and the PDF document runs exceptionally fast on many devices I've tested it on.
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Rory H October 25, 2021 10:53 pm UTC
Great comments!

Yep, it was mentioned that the armour table containing battle dress and vacc suits has been cropped on the Mongoose forum. Hopefully they’ll fix it up before the physical print run and they ought to fix it soon for the PDF regardless.

I’ve noticed a few minor updates on rules - for example, starting characters can now spend from a 10,000 credit budget rather than 2000 before (which means they can actually afford a vacc suit) and the Vargr have adjusted stats slightly in line with Aliens of Charted Space.

But yep, it’s not changing rules in any major way, and you can still use the 2016 rules book as it is. There is no need to purchase this book if you are a Traveller fan. It’s just for those who want an updated look.
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Rory H October 27, 2021 4:02 am UTC
It looks like they have corrected the Armour table to include the Hostile Environment Suit and Battle Dress now on an update on the Mongoose site at least. Should have been updated here also. Good work for spotting it!
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Jason M October 24, 2021 8:16 pm UTC
How 'bout an upgrade path for folks who bought the 2020 version less than a week before you released the 2022 version?
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John L October 24, 2021 4:20 pm UTC
$30 for a pdf? That is an insult to Mongoose's customers, actual or potential. Better to go with Cepheus Engine than allow one's self to be over-charged like this.
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Rory H October 24, 2021 6:14 pm UTC
Cepheus Engine barely has any art and has no licensing overheads because it is a retro-clone based on an old OGL. It isn’t an official Traveller product and is cheap for that reason. There is something peculiarly desperate about trying to proselytize it on another game’s discussion thread.
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Allan R October 27, 2021 2:52 am UTC
Lack of art doesn't make the game bad. I think it's perfectly valid to discuss similar RPGs in the comments thread of a particular product, especially when said product seems like a cheap cash-grab.

Mongoose don't need you to defend them, they're a big company, they can handle a little criticism and competition.
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Rory H October 27, 2021 3:50 am UTC
Mongoose are not a big company. They are a relatively small company with big overheads that come from paying for an IP license, and having creative staff that get paid a proper wage.

And I’ve no problem with competition, but the standards people judge game companies ought to be fairly considered.
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Allan R October 27, 2021 3:03 pm UTC
Mongoose is a "Big Company" in the same sense that they are "a big boy" and don't need you to defend them from perfectly valid criticisms of their product.

If you want to judge standards then Mongoose is an old player in the game, and should be able to do better than a layout 'update' that looks like it's fresh from 2003, especially when charging existing customers full price for this dubious improvement.

By comparison Cepheus Engine is free, mostly lacks art, and suffers from a slightly less readable layout than this modern 'masterpiece'. The fact that it's based on an 'old' open gaming license means practically nothing, considering most modern OSR games are based on an even older OGL and are some of the most innovative games coming out today. That's not to mention the fact that Mongoose Traveller 2nd edition is based on the very same ruleset Cepheus is.

No one is saying Cepheus is better laid out, but it's certainly more worth the price they are charging...See more
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Rory H October 27, 2021 6:19 pm UTC
A) A lot of these comments aren’t valid criticisms. Mongoose’s products currently are well laid out, well written and provide some great roleplaying experiences.

B) Cepheus Engine is cheap by comparison and that is all. They wouldn’t even exist without Mongoose’s OGL from their first edition. The Mongoose Traveller 2nd Edition is an evolution from that, based on trying to improve the game based on customer feedback. A lot of customer feedback from 1st edition was about improving layout and presentation - and that is what they did.

C) If all Cepheus Engine does is to provide a stick for some critics to try and beat Mongoose with on their products Discussion threads, then I personally don’t see that as being a great worth to me. If people were truly happy with Cepheus Engine products, then why hang around Discussion threads for Mongoose Traveller products bemoaning their costs?
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John L October 28, 2021 2:00 pm UTC
A) My criticism is valid. If you'd care to indicate exactly which comments are not valid, we can continue from there.

"Well written" is in the eye of the reader. Historically, Mongoose publications have been rife with textual errors. I won't harp on that because the entire RPG publishing industry seems to be incapable of publishing error-free books.

Cepheus also provides some great roleplaying experiences.

B) Rather than "cheap", I'd write "inexpensive" by comparison. THAT is the point of my comment. I have Mongoose Tv1 and Tv2 and a couple of presentations of the Cepheus Engine. While Mongoose's products are more shiny and pretty, those qualities do not necessarily make for a better gaming experience, unless one's gaming experience depends upon art and flashy layout.

C) Cepheus provides for far more than "a stick for some critics...". It provides for high quality gaming experiences for those with imagination...See more
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Rory H October 28, 2021 6:18 pm UTC
A) Your invalid criticism is that nobody should pay $30 for a PDF, or that it is an ‘insult'. Notwithstanding periodical discounting, which Mongoose do themselves from time to time, $30 is pretty much in line with the costs of newly released, full colour PDFs from other companies. There is no insult when customers have the choice to pay for it or not. It is a luxury item, and it does not invalidate previous purchases of the core book.

There are very few RPG publications that don’t have errata. Even the biggest companies, like Wizards of the Coast publish errata after new book releases - it is not anything exclusive to Mongoose. When you complain to Mongoose, they have a track record of being responsive and correcting them accordingly - as they have done already with this product

B) Cepheus is cheap by design. They don’t pay licensing fees, include art or any major layout design features, or have any major overheads. Their entire existence is as a retro clone based on an old OGL....See more
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Rory H October 29, 2021 2:23 am UTC
And Abraham Z’s comment has been flagged for a personal attack, which is basically all he has come here to do. Not sure where the notion I have been ‘banned' has come from, but obviously I am posting here. No, I have not been ‘told’ about anything.
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Robert R October 29, 2021 5:51 am UTC
I agree. No printing, shipping, or warehousing costs. $30 is a little high. I might pay 20-$25.
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Rory H October 29, 2021 7:15 am UTC
It is the cost of paying staff a working wage to make this stuff that makes up most of the price. Mongoose are one of the few RPG businesses that do this.
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Andrew K October 31, 2021 4:24 am UTC
"Cepheus is cheap by design. They don’t pay licensing fees, include art"
Ok you've obviously never actually read a Cepheus product aside from a few free or pay what you want items here on this site.
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ALEXANDER H October 31, 2021 1:35 pm UTC
Are you an employee of Mongoose @Rory H?
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Rory H November 01, 2021 4:59 am UTC
No. I am a customer. @ALEXANDER H
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Rory H November 01, 2021 5:00 am UTC
I have read Cepheus products. @ Andrew K.
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ALEXANDER H November 01, 2021 6:19 pm UTC
Hmmm. You are doing a pretty good job of selling Cepheus to me! Thanks.
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ALEXANDER H November 03, 2021 3:13 pm UTC
What a charmer you are!!!
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Rory H November 03, 2021 5:36 pm UTC
Likewise. Again, all you are doing here it trying to engage in antagonism on this thread. You have no other purpose here.
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James J November 04, 2021 4:41 am UTC
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Matthew T November 27, 2021 4:00 pm UTC
I'm pretty sure Rory accusing someone else of appearing "particularly desperate" in this discussion thread is the funniest thing I'll read all week. I think I'll go criticize Mongoose Traveller in a couple other forums just to make sure the guy isn't getting any sleep.
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Rory H November 28, 2021 12:22 pm UTC
I don’t really care at this point on this thread. The ‘criticisms’, for what they are worth seem to me to be nothing more than a few people complaining about prices that they can’t control and/or chip-on-the-shoulder comparisons to cheaper knock offs. The fact that Mongoose continues to be hugely successful with the Traveller line seems to be a major source of irritation to some. Glad it amuses you and, either way, I’m sleeping fine.

Maybe you should drop by the Journal of Traveller's Aid Society II Kickstarter to see how they are doing and make some comments there? Admittedly, you do have to actually make a material contribution towards a creative process be able to comment on that site, but I’m sure it’ll be worth it for you.
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Trentin B October 24, 2021 2:11 am UTC
I'm not paying another $30 for an update. This should be included or discounted for current buyers. Total slap in the face.
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Rory H October 24, 2021 9:10 am UTC
It has a new graphical layout, designed afresh from a team of professional designers.

In the same sense that Call of Cthulhu has just produced an 40th Anniversary edition, or Pendragon produced multiple versions of their 5th edition with different designs, or the Doctor Who RPG has produced new versions of their game without major rules changes, this is the same sort of thing.

You don’t have to buy it - you can stick with your old books as the rules are the same. It is explicitly not a new edition of the game. However, for those of us who don’t mind paying for a more striking design, some rules clarifications and the inclusion of ship building rules and an index, it is very welcome.

You don’t get that stuff for free, however entitled you feel.
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John L October 24, 2021 4:23 pm UTC
Rory, it is not about feeling "entitled" or wanting something for free. Mongoose should be able to make money off of their work. However, $30 is excessive. If you want to foolishly pay too much for digital content, knock yourself out.
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Rory H October 24, 2021 5:45 pm UTC
I disagree. This is a complete rulebook, with a new layout and art. New layout designers and artists need to get paid. For me, I am looking forward to a leatherette cover special edition of this book, and I am thankful to be able to buy such a product. If you don’t want to pay for it, that is fine, but there is nothing to complain about here. Anybody who thinks this is somehow an ‘insult’ to them or that they are being ‘overcharged', is acting in an entitled way.

Cepheus Engine barely has any art and has no licensing overheads because it is a retro-clone based on an old OGL. It isn’t an official Traveller product and is cheap for that reason. If you want to pay for that, knock yourself out.
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Ralph T October 24, 2021 7:56 pm UTC
This new layout is not worth the $30 price tag. I hope they didn't pay a lot of money for that layout because it doesn't look professional at all. It looks like something you would see in mid to late 90s design. If you were to compare it to some of the other designs done by other major table top RPG companies it would not hold well. It is missing a lot of the advanced design elements. Don't get me wrong. If this layout were applied to any of the amateur products that are on here it would be pretty good.

Regrading your comment on entitlement. You can bet your sweet xxx. If I am paying for a product I definitely entitled to my opinion on it and what I want in the product. If a product/company/person wants to improve then they need to learn how to take comments regardless of what those comments are. If they are bad comments roll with it and find the positive in the comment. If the comment is good enjoy it for a bit and then analysis it to see how you can improve.
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Rory H October 24, 2021 8:14 pm UTC
Is anybody here, who are criticizing, actually paying for anything? Or are they just complaining that they refuse to pay for it?

I disagree with your analysis of the layout and art. Certainly, if you are comparing Traveller products from the mid-late 90s, they were generally all black and white with a few inserted colour plates, and little layout work beyond text in columns. Go and have a look at T4 products of the time to make a comparison if you want. This product has a full colour layout and art and, speaking as a purchaser, I’m pretty happy with it. I find it entirely on a par with professional products I own from other companies.
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Randall O October 24, 2021 10:51 pm UTC
I know this isn't your intention, but you are coming off as extremely defensive of this product and dismissive of the concerns of others.

Someone can disagree with you and feel like this is overpriced without being "entitled". It's a simple act of comparison to other projects and a value judgment. Other games with similar pricing also receive similar complaints.

It is also perfectly valid to look at a charge like this for an update that is not a full revision and feel it is unfriendly to consumers. Mongoose has a history that provides context for these opinions, and not all of it is positive. (I have a lot of Mongoose and older traveller on my shelves and I don't regret purchasing any of them, but I am aware of many errata issues).
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Rory H October 24, 2021 11:54 pm UTC
Put it this way, if people feel free to discuss negatively on a product in the associated thread, then why should they feel hostile when somebody disagrees with them in turn? I’m not trying to personalize anything here, but when people start using language like ’slap in the face’ or ‘insult’ for a luxury item they don’t need, I do find it to be an entitled attitude. Sorry, but it is.

Like I say, who is it here that is actually a paying customer that is complaining about it?

Previous Mongoose publishings did have errors and lower production standards, admittedly, and people rightly complained about them. However, what we have here is a product with changes that were literally made in response to customer feedback, and people are complaining about it still.
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Trentin B October 26, 2021 3:32 am UTC
Hey, I'm not entitled. I'm just simply pointing out to Mongoose that this is a XXX business practice. If you love 'em, great! I'm sure they are happy to have you as a fan. I just find this approach absurd. Note that I haven't minded thus far paying premium prices for cool books in the new series. I do like the new rules, the artwork, the layout... I just don't understand why we need to fork out another $30 for an update.

I CAN go support other games. I can take my money elsewhere. But Mongoose popped this book up for sale AND it came across my news feed "as the new hotness" so... not a random reaction.

I'm fortunate to have so many options for my RPG budget. So, I'll take those dollars elsewhere. Frankly, I don't care how you feel about it. Good luck Rory.
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John L October 28, 2021 2:07 pm UTC
Rory, I have paid for Mongoose Traveller 1 and 2 books. Speaking as a purchaser, I think Mongoose's books are overpriced, especially the digital versions.

I am comparing them to past and present Traveller-esque gaming publications. New and shiny do not necessarily imply "better". I, too, enjoy a well produced publication. Flashy art and layout do not necessarily make a better book, unless one's criteria for "better" is flashy art and layout. I own many well-produced rpg books that do not depend upon flashy art and layout.
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John L October 28, 2021 2:09 pm UTC
I am a paying customer who is complaining about it. You, Rory, are the only person in this thread who appears to be hostile. Live and let live, man. You did paying too much for books. Some of us don't. Some of us wish Mongoose adopted a more reasonable priced point for their digital products. You don't. So be it.

Happy gaming!
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Rory H November 03, 2021 3:32 am UTC
You are not a paying customer of this item, John.
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paul B November 21, 2021 8:41 am UTC
Was going to buy but you've convinced me not to, thanks Rory H
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Rory H November 21, 2021 11:03 am UTC
No worries. I’d rather only people who appreciate it buy it. Why non-purchasers choose to leave commentary is beyond me, though.
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